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Re: A Salute from France
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2012, 01:31:22 PM »
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Pink Floyd - I never had the chance to see them in concert ...
I did a long long time ago (end of the 70s ). But my younger son offered me the full Pink Floyd remastered edition for Xmas - 17 CDs - Nice gift.

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Really good shops are rare - and more expensive than in France.
You are destroying my German Dream. Where am I going to take refuge after the French Presidential Elections if France becomes the European North Korea ?

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I feel guilty about such rude behaviour. It always irritates and annoys me if Germans treat foreigners this way.
It is sad but true: Service in Germany is usually bad.
You can bet, if I had been in that shop as another customer you would have gotten your sausages.
I don't think that it was aimed against foreigners, because I had no time to say even a word - I just pushed the door and one of the ladies shouted "Geschlossen ! " She could not guess that I was French, because, first, I had no time to open the mouth, and, second, I was not dressed as french people usually do - the beret, the tights, the slippers - and, last but not least, everybody knows that frenchmen always come out with their favorite pet : the rooster. Mine is called Charles (like the General)  - see the picture below (the things missing are the hand-rolled, half burnt cigarette hanging at the lip, and the frail with the bred, the bottle of red wine, and the stinking cheese).

Well, after that I worsened my case by trying, with the well-known French Charm, to persuade them to sell me some of their sausages, but it did not work better.
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I apologise for the unacceptable behaviour of these "ladies"
Thank you, I appreciate, but you don't have to, it's not your fault ... In my logic, when it is written "closing time hh:mm", it means that you can be served until hh:mm, and that after you leave the shop, and it then takes the staff let's say half an hour to put things in order, clean, make the accounts, etc ... so they leave at hh:mm+30min. But I think that in these ladies' logic, at that specific day, hh:mm was the time when THEY wanted to leave the shop, so they were making their 30 minutes of "closing work" before. And unfortunately I came and disturbed them. No luck - and no sausages.
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and offer compensation if you should visit Germany again. Perhaps we can meet for a couple of games of M&R ?
Oh ! I thought that when you spoke about compensation you meant sausages, not games ... But OK, I will buy my sausages, and my Ratzeputz. And we will play M&R and They Died For Glory.

This summer, we think we will go and visit the castles of Ludwig II von Bayern and also Vienna. May be we can arrange something. Is there a good "Wurstladen" in Karlsruhe ?


Yours very friendly

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Re: A Salute from France
« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2012, 03:26:03 AM »
Salut Patrice & everybody else of course,

back from a wonderful vacation, full of new impressions, deeply impressed by Japanese curtesy,
tidiness and discipline and after the first week back on the job I am checking back in.

You are destroying my German Dream. Where am I going to take refuge after the French Presidential Elections if France becomes the European North Korea ?
It can't be that serious in France to justifiy moving to Norht Korea ... Are you still in France? I suppose Hollande and Merkel will get used to each other, simply because they just have to in order to keep the EU running.

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I don't think that it was aimed against foreigners...
Of course not. It is because, "Service" is neither a German word nor will its meaning ever understood by (most) Germans. Especially if they are employees and the boss is not around.

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I was not dressed as french people usually do - the beret, the tights, the slippers - and, last but not least, everybody knows that frenchmen always come out with their favorite pet : the rooster. Mine is called Charles (like the General)  - see the picture below (the things missing are the hand-rolled, half burnt cigarette hanging at the lip, and the frail with the bred, the bottle of red wine, and the stinking cheese).
  :) Yes I know - and all Germans are dressed like this:
  ;)

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In my logic, when it is written "closing time hh:mm", it means that you can be served until hh:mm
See - We might dress different, but we think alike.

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Oh ! I thought that when you spoke about compensation you meant sausages, not games ... But OK, I will buy my sausages, and my Ratzeputz. And we will play M&R and They Died For Glory.
NoNoNo ... Of course the compensation will include a few amuse-gueules. It's not only in France that a host will make sure that the guests won't leave hungry and/or thirsty.

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This summer, we think we will go and visit the castles of Ludwig II von Bayern and also Vienna.
If you are in that aera I recommend a visit in Hechingen at Burg Hohenzollern (http://www.burg-hohenzollern.com/startpage.html), the Ancestral seat of the Prussian Royal House and also a visit in Sigmaringen at Schloss Sigmaringen http://www.schloss-sigmaringen.de/ unless you come to Germany because you wanna see hordes of Japanese tourists at Schloss Neuschwanstein ... Both are located in the Black Forest, where one can get very good sausages, game-meat and Schnaps. I know that region rather well. Vienna is also very nice. You absolutely should try "Tafelspitz" there.

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May be we can arrange something.
Ja - sehr gerne. Tell me when you plan to go and I will see what I can do  :)

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Is there a good "Wurstladen" in Karlsruhe ?
Hm ... what I have in mind (Bratwurst and Schwenkbraten - both for the barbecue-grill),
would be better in/near Saarbrücken,
which would be on the way towards Southern Germany anyway.
And there we would have enough space to play a game ... or two.

Cold sausages can be bought almost everywhere - but I recommend the Black Forest.

That would be nice ...

À plus !
Axel
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der andere war der Blitz.

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Re: A Salute from France
« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2012, 08:08:28 AM »
back from a wonderful vacation,... and after the first week back on the job I am checking back in.
Welcome back in the Real World, Axel ...
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to justifiy moving to Norht Korea
We don't need to move to North Korea, the North Korean principles moved to France ... Do you imagine that 13 % of the ballots came to ultra-left candidates like the "Left Front", the "New Anticapitalist Party", the "Workers' Struggle", and the "French Greens" [cf Note] It looks a little bit like Der Rote Frontkämpferbund nicht wahr ? In their meeting they even use the same salute and they sing (or try to sing) Der Rote Wedding !!!

Note : You know what is the emblem of the French Ecologist Party : The water-melon : Green outside, Red inside ... (A classical political joke here)

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all Germans are dressed like this:
I am happy that you preferred to display the Gentleman rather than the Lady (You will have noticed the dress : Bleu-White-Red ...) :


Note : In fact, I found some far (very far) nicer pictures of Bavarian-style Ladies, but as this forum is not restricted for teenagers I don't want, the next time I fly to the States, to be taken out of the plane and brought in a US jail for offence to the laws on protection of under-age people ... One Frenchman is enough ... And think to my reputation ...

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a few amuse-gueules. It's not only in France that a host will make sure that the guests won't leave hungry and/or thirsty.
In my opinion it's not a question of country, but rather a question of person and/or education ... My wife had "friends" who had "ancient" french roots, and when they invited you for dinner, you had to eat something either before, or after, because the portions were really scarce ... something like "Nouvelle Cuisine", but even not good. And it was not only once, it happened several times with different persons ...

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... I recommend a visit in Hechingen at Burg Hohenzollern  also a visit in Sigmaringen at Schloss Sigmaringen
Very good recommendation ! We will plan a detour by Schwaben. Sigmaringen was the place where Marschall Pétain, the Chief of the French State, and his Government took refuge at the end of WW2.

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... hordes of Japanese tourists at Schloss Neuschwanstein ...
Are you serious ? I don't want to be lost in the middle of a crowd dumping from dozens of motorcoaches, with myriads of guides flourishing name-plates and color-flags, and all other tourist-related stuff !!! We have a nice castle in my area, http://www.musee-chateau-fontainebleau.fr/ which is on my way when I go to Fontainebleau, and we have the same tourists who sometimes want to cross the street. But you must not stop and let them cross, because it never ends ! Once you think the flock is gone, other ones arrive in running and you are stuck for another three minutes in front of the pedestrian crossing !!! I want to avoid this at any price. Is there a better season for visiting Bayern ? 

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You absolutely should try "Tafelspitz"
Ah ! Tafelspitz ! It's one of my favorite dishes ... And I prepare it myself : I have a book of "genuine" authentic Austrian Recipes.

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Tell me when you plan to go and I will see what I can do
Considering what you mentionned about tourists, what would be the best period to visit Germany and Austria? We are very flexible for the dates, between June and September. It will also depend on the availabilitry of my Austrian friends that we plan to visit too.

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what I have in mind ...
We will rely on you for finding the good addresses and the right places.

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That would be nice ...
That WILL be nice !!!

Tschüß

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Re: A Salute from France
« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2012, 01:35:37 AM »
Hello Patrice,

thank you very much for the warm welcome-back  :)
I must admit it was difficult for my wife and me to return to Germany.
Still in Kyoto we found out, that we like the idea to live there.
Though the peoples politness is good manners and social graces in first place it is a very pleasant feeling.

Fancy that: even the bus-drivers thank every passenger who is leaving the bus (one pays  or present the day-ticket when leaving the bus) for driving with him.
In the - not so unlikely - event that the bus is packed with people, joung people leave the bus to allow the elderly who are waiting at a bus-stop to take this ride instead of having to wait for the next one ...

On the other side ... most likely no table top gamers around ...  :(
But I found a modeling-store with extremely nice built stuff from Tamiya, Dragon and from manufactures I've never heard of.

And I've been in a weapon-store, where Katanas and Samurai-armour are sold.
I spoke to the owner who spoke rather good English for more than half an hour.
I was tempted to buy that extremly beautiful Katana for only 2.8 million Yen (just 28.000 €) but my wife objected resolutely ...
Sometimes I don't understand women ...  ::) - I mean it was a bargain, n'est pas?

... Do you imagine that 13 % of the ballots came to ultra-left candidates ...
Yes - I read the newspapers. I also read the friendly words of Emmanuel Todd who stated that all Europeans would suffer from Germany's economicla superiority
which had driven Greece into depletion. This guy seems to hate us Germans. He caused some stupid reactions from people who are posting in different online-forums such as: "I cancelled my summer-vacation in France, because I don't want to support a nation who's people hate us.". If you are interrested:
The article: ww.focus.de/finanzen/doenchkolumne/anhaenger-von-francois-hollande-aetzt-gegen-deutsche-wie-sehr-hassen-uns-die-franzosen_aid_752995.html.
My reaction: http://www.focus.de/finanzen/doenchkolumne/nicht-beeindrucken-lassen-anhaenger-von-francois-hollande-aetzt-gegen-deutsche-kommentar_4452044.html

Note : You know what is the emblem of the French Ecologist Party : The water-melon : Green outside, Red inside ... (A classical political joke here)
;D Not bad - we have something similar here:
"Grün reden - Rot wählen - Schwarz arbeiten"
(you know the meaning of "Schwarz arbeiten" ?)

In my opinion it's not a question of country, but rather a question of person and/or education ...
I absolutely agree.

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Very good recommendation ! We will plan a detour by Schwaben. Sigmaringen was the place where Marschall Pétain, the Chief of the French State, and his Government took refuge at the end of WW2.
I'm glad you like the tips. Yey, I know about the fact that Sigmaringen hosted the French Government for about half a year.
I didn't mention it, because I thought it would not be nice to do so. After all this is not one of the best parts of French-German history.

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Are you serious ?
As serious as a man can get!
I mean, the castle is nice, though it is not a real castle since it was built between 1869 and 1884.
Somehow it is a magic place to Asian and American tourists. But there are much nicer castles in Germany. For instance Burg Eltz.
It is the only castle in the region Südeifel, which was never conquered nor devastated.
It survived the wars during the 17th and 18th century and the period of the French revolution unharmed.
A very nice and well hidden castle!

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Is there a better season for visiting Bayern ?
I really don't know. But there's so much to see in Bayern besides Schloss Neuschwanstein ...
Once I've been at Burg Hohenzollern in Winter. We had very summy weather and it was freezing cold. There was frost on every tree - amazing.
I still should have some nice pictures from this visit. Let me see ...

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Ah ! Tafelspitz ! It's one of my favorite dishes ... And I prepare it myself : I have a book of "genuine" authentic Austrian Recipes.
I admit I am surprised. I thought this dish is not well known outside Austria. I asked a friend to find out the name of the restaurant in Vienna, which I had been invited to years ago. He'll be there over the weekend and he has lots of friends there.

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Considering what you mentionned about tourists, what would be the best period to visit Germany and Austria?
Well, I don't know about the best season in order to avoid masses of foreign tourists. At least I can find out, when the best time would be to avoid the German summer holiday run towards south ... I will check that.

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We will rely on you for finding the good addresses and the right places.

It is my pleasure, if can be of help.
I would need a rough route you are planning to go.

Bis dahin alles Gute,
Axel
« Last Edit: May 23, 2012, 11:42:44 PM by additz »
Sie kamen nie alleine,
der Zieten und der Fritz,
der Donner war der eine,
der andere war der Blitz.