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Nigeltullett

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Common cards 16 extra needed -Help
« on: December 24, 2015, 06:02:18 AM »
I have just received (via air mail - Uk based) from Drivethrucards my set of Aurlian cards, very nice high quality item as you would expect, printed double sided with a nice system logo on the back face.

I have yet to play a game, but reading the rules I have noted that each army needs 16 common cards, however the printed set only contains 16. Meaning that either I buy another printed set which is out of the question or have to print from the down load pdf.  I don't have an issue, but it seems a shame not to be able to use matching cards. 

What would help is if there was a down load of the cards back face available so the "home printed " common cards would not stand out from the professionally produced.
Sam is this possible?

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Nick the Lemming

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Re: Common cards 16 extra needed -Help
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2015, 07:30:43 AM »
I'd like to see a common core set too, so that I could just order another set of them alone, but there is another way around it - use card covers with opaque backs, and print out another set on similar weight card.

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Re: Common cards 16 extra needed -Help
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2015, 08:15:23 AM »
Or just buy 2 sets...

You'll need them for blue on blue civil war action anyway. ;)

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Re: Common cards 16 extra needed -Help
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2015, 08:50:35 AM »
Yeah, I could make just the common cards available as a PoD product.  Please bear in mind, though:

1. This would take several weeks to get them set up, proofed, and available,  AND

2. They'd end up costing you almost as much as the full set, just because of shipping costs.   For example, if I sold a "common cards only" pack for, say, ten dollars*,  you'd be saving a total of @ £6 on buying the whole set as it currently exists.

* Please don't hold me to that;  I haven't priced them yet and have no idea what they'd cost.  But the point is:  most of what you'd be paying is shipping.

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Re: Common cards 16 extra needed -Help
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2015, 09:03:20 AM »
Just figured out a fix, print out the 16 "home print" common cards, cut out them out and using one of the spare two army national sets as backing put in clear plastic card protectors.  So you have a home print front card just loose sitting on a nice proper card inside a plastic pocket showing the logo as per the rest of the cards.

Should have thought about this more!
Spending another £24 incl shipping to the UK for another pack is just not necessary.

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Re: Common cards 16 extra needed -Help
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2015, 11:58:14 AM »
Yeah, I could make just the common cards available as a PoD product.  Please bear in mind, though:

1. This would take several weeks to get them set up, proofed, and available,  AND

2. They'd end up costing you almost as much as the full set, just because of shipping costs.   For example, if I sold a "common cards only" pack for, say, ten dollars*,  you'd be saving a total of @ £6 on buying the whole set as it currently exists.

* Please don't hold me to that;  I haven't priced them yet and have no idea what they'd cost.  But the point is:  most of what you'd be paying is shipping.

Bear in mind that you'll be doing other card packs for Bluecher as PoD too though. That means we're going to have to buy those anyway, so we can easily throw in another Aurelian common card set in the order. :D

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Re: Common cards 16 extra needed -Help
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2015, 05:05:50 PM »
If you play the campaign, you will end up with Roman verses Roman and other possible civil wars, so two full sets is not a waste.

Sam,
Do you plan on posting the unit tiles as Print on demand. 8 copies of each card would give around 60 card decks. You could post by army.

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Re: Common cards 16 extra needed -Help
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2015, 06:29:48 PM »
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Do you plan on posting the unit tiles as Print on demand.

It could be done, but It would take a few weeks to set it all up, proof them, and so on..  It would have to be four separate sets, because in order to cover all the possible combinations, there would be a lot of cards. 

The Roman set, for example, would probably need at least 80 unit tiles. (And that’s without any Foederati.)  The Persians would probably be even bigger, the barbarians smaller.

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Re: Common cards 16 extra needed -Help
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2015, 07:33:12 PM »
I don't know if others are interested. I would pick up a couple of Romans plus one each of the other forces.. I have the miniatures for home games, but the cards do travel well.

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Re: Common cards 16 extra needed -Help
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2015, 12:17:02 AM »
I completely agree with you, Mike P., I would buy two Roman sets plus one each of the rest.

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Re: Common cards 16 extra needed -Help
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2016, 10:50:08 AM »
Agree. I would buy unit cards as well.

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Re: Common cards 16 extra needed -Help
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2016, 12:22:39 PM »
Me too. During Playtesting I got rid of my "have to play with miniatures"-syndrom and thus I really would like that travel-friendly option.

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Re: Common cards 16 extra needed -Help
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2016, 01:30:23 PM »
It's the common core cards I'd like to be able to buy for a second set myself. Hopefully Sam can arrange that at some point, and I'll get the Austrians and Russians for Bluecher at the same time then to save on postage.

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Re: Common cards 16 extra needed -Help
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2016, 07:35:08 AM »
I recieved my set of Aurelian Cards today, just in time for tomorrows first game, and now i see its only a one player set? I have to say that this is not nice.  :( As with all sets up to now (other games like Maurice or Longstreet) i expected that the cardset is for 2 and i will need just 2 sets if i go for 4 players. Really disappointing.

And i searched through the rules and its not mentioned that the card set is for only one player....the rules say a "full set". A full set should have all cards needed for playing the game at least at minimal setup. With 2 players.

As I am ordering from Germany now i have to go for one more order and more P+P as i allready ordered all the blücher sets with my first set and saved on P+P their.

Once more, i dont bother to buy 2 sets, but i bother if the rules say "full set" and this "full set" isnt enough for a game.

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Re: Common cards 16 extra needed -Help
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2016, 10:34:39 AM »
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As with all sets up to now (other games like Maurice or Longstreet) i expected that the cardset is for 2

The Longstreet card set is not for two players; it is for one.

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this "full set" isnt enough for a game.

A full set of Aurelian cards that would cover all the possible combinations of enemies would require 160 cards - double the current size.

That's because I have no way of knowing who your opponent is.  For example:  if you are Roman and so is your opponent, then you will need two sets of Common cards and two sets of Roman cards.   

That would work until somebody complained, "Hey, I'm playing Germans and so is my opponent; there aren't enough cards in here for both of us; this isn't a full set!"

If you wanted a "full set" for two players that covered every possible match-up, then I'd have to charge you double.  That makes no sense, and most people would then complain:  "Hey, nobody in our club plays the Sarmatians... how come we have to pay for all these double Sarmatian cards we don't need?"   (Not to mention: I don't know how many people you play with. A set for two people isn't much good if your group has three members. Somebody will have to order too many cards, and he'll complain that that's not fair.)

You might then logically ask,  "Then why not just sell them in packs of 16, so that each player could get only the ones he needs?"  Which is a reasonable question, but experience has taught me that people will then complain that I'm charging way too much for just 16 cards, and how come they have to pay for all that shipping for just sixteen lousy cards?!?

Thus you get a full set of cards for one player -  just like Longstreet.   If you want another set you can use the free ones that I have on the Downloads page.
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