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JonathanLB

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Bagpipers in the French Irish Brigade?
« on: April 23, 2017, 10:45:27 PM »
As I was searching the internet for primary sources for the battle of Fontenoy, I kept bumping into stories, with no footnotes (of course), of the Irish barreling forward into a hail of Anglo/Hanoverian musketry behind war pipes playing the white cockade. Now, at first I dismissed it as nonsense, but apparently, there are claims of the Irish having pipes all through the WSS and up until Fontenoy. Is this rubbish or is there truth to it? What would an Irish piper be wearing in 1745?

Any idea about primary sources from the Brigade at the battle wold help

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Re: Bagpipers in the French Irish Brigade?
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2017, 05:19:30 AM »
Not a primary source, but according to this scholar, they were indeed there:

https://archive.org/details/cu31924022329977


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Re: Bagpipers in the French Irish Brigade?
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2017, 10:56:02 AM »
Any idea of dress?

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Re: Bagpipers in the French Irish Brigade?
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2017, 01:41:23 PM »
Not a clue, sorry.

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Re: Bagpipers in the French Irish Brigade?
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2017, 04:56:06 PM »
Not  clue here either, but I bet these guys will, they are a fountain of knowledge around the era

http://www.leagueofaugsburg.com/fightingtalk/index.php

Hope they can help you

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Re: Bagpipers in the French Irish Brigade?
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2017, 10:34:45 PM »
Yes, already managed that one before you told me, haha.....gonna try emailing some re-enactors too if I can find any

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Re: Bagpipers in the French Irish Brigade?
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2017, 06:46:16 AM »
The traditional Irish pipes are smaller than the Scottish ones , they are called Aeollian , I think .  They would have been heard around the campfires at night and would stow away easily in the bread bags. These may have been the ones referred to in the sources, either soldiers or musicians would have carried them as personal items.