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Discuss the Honour system.

1. Sir Tobi
   Member

   Hi all,

   Cam from New Zealand has proposed an very interesting point system here: http://awc.wargaming.info/napoleonics-1790-1840/in-search-of-points-lasalle

   It is probably known to most forum members, and I just want to say that for me it makes a lot of sense and does work quite well. So I have transfered it into an excel-based army builder that allows to generate Army-Lists based on the point-system. Before I make it available as a download I first want to discuss it with Cam and ask him permission to use his system, and I'd also like to propose a tiny Modifikation.

   Does anyone know how to contact Cam? I'd be grateful for a hint.

   Thank you and best regards,
   Tobi

   Posted 1 year ago #

2. paulus
   Member

   Hi Tobi ....a points based excel army builder sounds good:) ...I'm sure Cam will respond:)

   cheers Paul

   Posted 1 year ago #

3. cam_millar
   Member

   You are free to do what you want with it.

   The main thing I emphasise is the points are not designed to be what I think they should be to provide balanced armies. They are an attempt to derive points that are fairly consistent with the AB lists. If I was doing a points system myself I would make organic cavalry a lot more expensive!

   So if your spreadsheet allows people to also tinker with unit points as well that would be an improvement.

   Cam

   Posted 1 year ago #

4. Sir Tobi
   Member

   Thanks for your answer. Yes, that's exactly how I understood your point system, Cam.

   I have implemented the system as a Excel-sheet (for Excel 2007, it probably will also work on older Excel versions, yet the colors will look strange there) and I have placed it for download here:
   http://www.ulmer-strategen.de/Downloads/Lasalle-Point-System075.xlsx

   I would be very interested in any feedback.

   As I have experienced with the system quite a lot, I found some changes on Cam's system necessary in order to achieve equal (or roughly equal) point values for the core armies. These changes are listed below:

   French Subgenerals cost +5, the Subgenerals listed in Cam's list cost 0, all others -5
   Attackers get 20 Points extra
   Skirmishers cost 2 (instead of 1 in Cams System)
   Large infantry is multiplied with 1,2 instead of 1,3
   extra/less guns in the BTY's cost +/- 2 instead of 1
   Cavalry units cost 10 instead of 9
   Send in the guards rule costs -15 instead if -10
   Superior Commanders cost 5

   With these changes I found all core selections are rather balanced and cost roughly around 65 - 70 points. I have included two examples for the peninsular armies as seperate folders in the excel sheet.

   Please experience with the system and tell me what you think. You will find that in the Excel-Sheet only the white fields can be changed - this is done in order not to erase calculations by accident. Anyone who wants to change the system is free to do so, the password for the protection is "Lasalle".

   Very best regards,
   Tobi

   Posted 1 year ago #

5. Sir Tobi
   Member

   I'm sorry, I had to rename the file. Now the download should work properly.

   Posted 1 year ago #

6. nosher
   Member

   I have tried to download this and all I keep getting is pages of gobbleygook rather than a file?

   Posted 12 months ago #

7. Sir Tobi
   Member

   Hi Nosher,

   it seems you have not the latest Excel Version. I've know saved the file in a different format that should be compatible with older versions. The colors there will be different (the background will probably change from pergament-color to yellow) but otherwise it should work. Please try this link:

   http://www.ulmer-strategen.de/Downloads/Lasalle-Point-System075(compatible).xls

   Posted 12 months ago #

8. nosher
   Member

   Cheers Sir Tobi

   that looks a bit better!

   Posted 12 months ago #

9. Dave Taylor
   Member

   will this work for all nations or is it only French at the moment

   Posted 12 months ago #

10. Evan
    Member

    Hi Dave, It'ds meant to cover all the nations and it works pretty well. I've developed a Dutch/Belgian/Nassau army (based on Perponchers division) for the 100 days campaign from it.

    Posted 11 months ago #

11. Andrew
    Member

    I will give it a go as I would like to use the Saxon list and tweak it a little thank you

    Posted 11 months ago #

12. seldon
    Member

    Excellent !
    I'm using Cam's point system to build the army builders for South American Wars of Independence so this is of much use!

    thanks
    Francisco

    Posted 11 months ago #

13. Sir Tobi
    Member

    You are very wellcome - glad you like the army builder. If you have any comments, suggestions or wishes don't hesitate to post them here.

    Best regards,
    Tobi

    Posted 11 months ago #

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