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1. Gunfreak25
   Member

   Now I usualy use historic OOB's for all my projects, and they tend to be quite big.

   My primary forces for lasalle will be 900 figures big..

   But the army builder seem fun, when I have painted my figures for my main thing, there is nothing stopping me from useing the units in the army builder,

   As I plan to use lasalle as a demo game trying to snear ny gamers, it would be nice to have simple ready balanced forces.

   Now to the question, as the sample page shows and if I've read them right, you start out with a core "brigade" now for Prussia in 1806 it would consist of 6 muskeetr 2 gernadier, 1 fusiliers, 2 sk bases, and a heavy battery.
   Thats the base, and in theroy you only need the base?
   Tho it's not that fun, then you can add, if I add an infantry brigade I get 4 more musketeers, 1 gernadier and another battery,
   And this would be a total normal balances force, the other side, would then choose a french(or other country) army from the same period?

   But why is the Liberation or 100 days base brigades so much smaller?

   And as long as both sides have the same numbers of "extra" brigades" the forces would be balanced?

   Posted 2 years ago #

2. vonGottschall
   Member

   Balance isn't just number of units but their quality as well. While Sam says the lists are not balanced, they are near enough in most circumstances. If you look at the 1806 Prussians, the main battalions can't skirmish which makes them more vulnerable.

   Regarding both sides getting extra bases, if trying to keep both sides balanced they the quality and capability of each added battalion per respective side needs to be taken into accout. This is why the organic and reserve brigades are organized as they are. The heavy cavalry gets fewer regiments than the light cavalry brigades, etc.

   Posted 2 years ago #

3. Sam Mustafa
   Le Grand Fromage

   Most of the balancing takes place in the Core lists, not the supporting brigades, because I can't be sure how many supporting brigades players will be using.

   The Core lists are balanced not just by numbers of units, but also by things like the chances of rolling good Vigor and Tactics and subcommanders, and of course by special rules (such as the "Linear Tactics" rule for the early-war Prussians. (And their limited SK abilities.)

   Sometimes you have to play the game a while to appreciate all the built-in advantages of your army list. For instance, the British "Superior Commander" rule doesn't seem like much of a benefit until you learn to Countercharge at the right time and place (which is usually easier since you often have good Discipline and/or a Vigorous subcommander, and then suddenly always picking the first combat resolution can be a devastating way to disrupt an enemy attack.

   Posted 2 years ago #

4. Gunfreak25
   Member

   Ok, but I got the basicly building the army right.

   You choose the core list, then add 1 or more extra brigades

   That means that some armies will be quite small, like the 100 days prussian could have as few as 2 foot units, but 4 cav units, pluss 2 SK base and two batteries.
   That quite manageable number of units.

   I ask becasue my plan is to make sevral demo forces, So I'll probebly make a few of the smaller core list, then 1 or 2 extra brigades.
   I'll try and make mabye 3 diffrent forces so people have something to choose from.
   Better they be sevral forces that are small then just 1 big one

   Posted 2 years ago #

5. Sam Mustafa
   Le Grand Fromage

   [That means that some armies will be quite small, like the 100 days prussian could have as few as 2 foot units, but 4 cav units, pluss 2 SK base and two batteries.]

   No, the Liberation and 100 Days Prussian army lists are the same Core List. That's one box.

   Then you add one Support Brigade.

   Posted 2 years ago #

6. Gunfreak25
   Member

   Ah, didn't even notise that, that explanes the BIG diffrence I thought I saw beteen the post 1810 and the 1806 prussians, now it makes more sense

   Thanks Sam

   Posted 2 years ago #

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