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1. madcam2us
   Member

   Hello,

   Not trying to break what's written, just food for thought...

   Anyone think that a unit wanting to change formation, especially during a potential combat turn, is too easy? Even an "amateur" has a base 50/50 chance to successfully counter an enemy's movement.

   I'm thinking about introducing a "CASED" house rule whereby: if a unit is within 1/2 movement distance of a potential charger, then they take the Out of Command penalty to their Disc Test.

   The rational being a unit might not have the time to get into the optimum formation.

   Can anyone see any outright issues for this?

   Madcam.

   (again just food for thought!!! Not trying to re-write Sams rules - well perhaps just at my house)

   Posted 2 years ago #

2. blucher
   Member

   How many games have you played?

   Bare in mind that these have been paytested a lot for balance. I would suggest playing perhaps 20 games 'as is', before introducing house rules.

   Posted 2 years ago #

3. madcam2us
   Member

   Fair enough..

   I've play just a hand-ful (and mostly just vs us hard-core tournament types! LOL). But certainly not my first go around with gaming. I'll continue to get the games in, but was just something Im punting around with.

   Madcam.

   Posted 2 years ago #

4. seldon
   Member

   I see your point, but the current system for me works quite well. Nobody can really argue what is the "correct" probability, but to me the question is, is it enough of a factor so that players will take it into consideration and I believe it is. You might only have a 50% chance of not making it to square, but the result if you don't is so bad that the expected value of not taking the option of forming square ahead of time is enough of a risk...

   Just my thoughts...

   cheers
   Francisco

   Posted 2 years ago #

5. cam_millar
   Member

   Lasalle is a results based game - so to turn this around: in your opinion are you seeing too many or too few infantry units being destroyed by cavalry charges?

   Given you want to make it harder to form square in the reaction phase, this seems to me you are saying you are not seeing enough infantry being ridden down.

   Personally, I have so far probably seen the opposite. In my games players have taken the risk of forming square by reaction, but with a 1/3 failure rate for good troops, they are getting ridden down quite often. One French Chasseur unit rode down three of my large Austrian infantry last game.

   If you make emergency squares too hard, players will form square voluntarily more often. Less infantry will be killed by cavalry charges - they will instead by killed in square by artillery or infantry.

   I quite like the current balance - but have not had enough games to work out if the overall results are right yet (assuming I have any clue what "right" means here).

   Cam

   Posted 2 years ago #

6. blucher
   Member

   Yes I suppose the biggest effect is on the cavalry vs infantry. So far Ive found the balance to be about right. Yes, they might form square and beat you back but you arnt destroyed like in shako for example. I do find it annoying in this where a perfectly good cavalry charge (into the flank of a line perhaps) results in my regiment being wiped out.

   Posted 2 years ago #

7. madcam2us
   Member

   Take it a step further...

   You've been able to achieve a flank charge only to see the target make at worst, a 50% chance to form up. If your Exp is 66%. That's all I'm saying. still I'll get more games in as written prior to trying my negative modifier.

   Madcam.

   Posted 2 years ago #

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