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1. parrskool
   Member

   Being new to the Lasalle Rules I have a few points which I hope some generous fellows may clear up :

   1. Unlike most rules, there is no movement deduction for firing, Can anyone explain the rationale ?
   2. There is no distinction between firing from a three rank vs2 rank line. Again I wondered what the thinking was.
   3. To change from attack column to line takes place in the Activity Phase, NOT the Reaction. Correct ?
   4. Counter charge is open to cavalry, NOT to infantry. Correct?

   Thanks for your suggestions.

   Posted 8 months ago #

2. Sam Mustafa
   Le Grand Fromage

   1. In a sense, there is a deduction, since if you fire in the Reaction phase, you can't do anything else, like fall back, change formation, etc.

   2. As mentioned on p.12-13, the units represent a variety of possible numbers of men in ranks, plus skirmishers. I don't have any theory about a two-rank line shooting better than a three-rank line; it depends upon a number of other things, such as how many files are actually shooting, whether or not the third-rankers are deployed to skirmish, whether or not whole companies are deployed to skirmish, etc.

   3. You can change formation as a reaction OR during movement in your Activity phase.

   4. Correct.

   Posted 8 months ago #

3. Mycenius
   Member

   As mentioned on p.12-13, the units represent a variety of possible numbers of men in ranks, plus skirmishers. I don't have any theory about a two-rank line shooting better than a three-rank line; it depends upon a number of other things, such as how many files are actually shooting, whether or not the third-rankers are deployed to skirmish, whether or not whole companies are deployed to skirmish, etc.

   Indeed. Plus the fact the 2 ranks versus 3 ranks is most probably more myth than reality. As Nafziger (Imperial Bayonets) and others have pointed out the British deployed to a fixed frontage - and as their battalions were nearly always well understrength they could barely cover the frontage with 2 ranks - contrary to popular belief they almost certainly deployed in 3 ranks on some occasions when their battalions were excessively large (e.g. 1000 men plus).

   I'd also contend much of the supposed claim to recognise 2 ranks as being better firepower than 3 is probably retrospective - i.e. stated in Memoirs written 10-20 years after the Napoleonic Wars and not at the time. By which stage the myth of the British Infantry (supposedly out shooting everyone) already had been formed and needed justifying... Even Napoleon's vaunted instruction to have recognised the 2 ranks vs. 3 thing in standing orders as early as around 1808-09 (IIRC) is a bit suspect, and regardless it was never implemented.

   Posted 7 months ago #

4. Mycenius
   Member

   P.S. I suspect @sharonlevi80's post is SPAM Sam - see the TAGs.

   Posted 7 months ago #

5. Max Shadow
   Member

   Oh I don't know. I'm having more and more trouble seeing and apinting my 15mm's. :oP

   Posted 7 months ago #

6. Mycenius
   Member

   Hahahaha - yeah... But are you willing to mail order spectacles from Eastern Europe or Asia or whatever...? ;-p

   Posted 7 months ago #

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