See Cam & my latest 28mm Lasalle game photos and account on my blog at:
http://wargaming.info/2011/lasalle-in-the-hundred-days/
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Hundred Days Game Report
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That is possibly the best-looking blog game report I have ever seen!
We're going to have to use some of those figures and terrain in pictures for the next book.
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Very nice minis and terrain guys....which ones Cam? and whose John? in the image gallery ....nice to put a face to the text that we see on the forum:)
cheers Paul
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Anything great looking is John's, anything that looks like it was painted by a 4yo is mine. John likes a very good looking game - but he lets me play sometimes...
For all my complaining about combined arms attacks, the dice gods also had the last laugh: a French battalion was twice charged by British cav and inf at the same time - and twice it won the combat and survived to the end of the game ... unlike the cavalry.
Cam
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Hi Sam & Paul - thanks for the comments.
Sam - always happy to contribute to a future publication if you want - I have been involved with rules publishing previously with Arty Conliffe, having been co-Author of Modern Spearhead, and assisted elsewhere.
Paul - You can see both Cam and Mike (DaKiwiMike) in the photos (Cam is in the white T-Shirt; Mike is seated observing from the end of the table) - I'm hiding behind the camera! But you can see my ugly mug on my Twitter page if you really need to: http://www.twitter.com/Mycenius
Throughout the game Mike's 'catch cry' of advice was "You might as well have a go, there's no downside"! ;-)
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Anything great looking is John's, anything that looks like it was painted by a 4yo is mine. John likes a very good looking game - but he lets me play sometimes...
Well, actually, in many ways Cam's vintage French don't look too bad, the fact he has managed to cram 8 x 25mm figs onto a base creates a very nice, and if you are the opposition somewhat overwhelming, effect! :-)The basing of my figs isn't actually complete - I ran out of Noch & MiniNature grass and such (and need to replenish) - this was the inaugural outing of the first of my 28mm 100-Days forces - some of which (Brunswickers, Dutch-Belgians & Nassauers) have been painted and lying around languishing for 2-3 years waiting for basing to be completed, etc...
The Brunswick Hussars were doing a cameo for the game - as my British 15th king's Hussars (with their lovely red shakos) from 5th Cavalry Brigade arent' ready as yet... As you'll have noticed the 3rd KGL Hussars are a man down too - in fact they are 5 down as historically this was a very large regiment at Waterloo (around 700 men I think - so even if only 80% had horses it's large in Lassalle terms) so will be 6 bases once finished.
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Paul - You can see both Cam and Mike (DaKiwiMike) in the photos (Cam is in the white T-Shirt; Mike is seated observing from the end of the table)...
Paul - correction (in case of confusion) - in the large image gallery at the end of the article Cam is on the left in the first image with another AWC gamer (co-incidentally also called Paul) seated at end of table. Cam's also in the 14th image, standing on the right.Mike (DaKiwiMike) is in the 9th image - seated at the head of the table...
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P.P.S. The Large Image Gallery is supposed to be a Java-Script pop-up window you can scroll through all the images, but there is a bug in WordPress at the moment and I can't get the damn thing to work properly, so at present it's defaulting to just opening individual images I'm afraid - very annoying...
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Very nice AAR I hope you do bring your British down south they look great.
Now post some more game reports with pictures :)
Cheers
Tim
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Very nice AAR I hope you do bring your British down south they look great.
I may do - although as mentioned here http://www.sammustafa.com/honour/forum/topic/call-to-arms-wellington-august-20-21st I might bring Brunswickers or Dutch-Belgian-Nassauers with just some token British support (if we can work out a feasible list)... :-)Now post some more game reports with pictures :)
Well Cam and I have a rematched planned for Easter Weekend - although possibly we might try that scenario you have flagged for CTA in Wellington Tim (or both - depending on time)... :-)Posted 1 year ago # -
Oddly, I always imagined that Cam had more hair than that....
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Doesn't everyone...? ;-)
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Stunning miniatures and terrain guys. Kudos to you both for an outstanding game. It's AAR's like this one that allows me to play thru you all. Again, well done gents.
I will say though that I was quite surprised to read that the French medium battery was a 1/72nd scale versus 25mm. How does it compare when stacked up next to a 25mm unit? I didn't see any pictures that I could really enlarge or see. Nothing wrong with it mind you (in all honesty, I am jeallous that I haven't thought about this before).
Again, thanks for the awesome work and thanks very much for sharing.
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The artillery was Zvezda. Their 12 lb guns are not that much smaller than my Hinchliffe guns. But the gunners are a lot smaller. You can get away with it since you don't tend to notice artillery figures as you would infantry or cavalry.
It was not intentional: they are Italian artillery from another 1/72 army - I have been too lazy to paint up some more 28mm artillery.
Cam
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No worries Cam. Again great job as I didn't even notice he difference at all when I watching the slide show. I only noticed it when I read it! =) Again well done sir, to both of you.
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I didn't see any pictures that I could really enlarge or see.
Steve - see the 4th Slide show near the bottom (just above the section titled "The Forces") the first image in the slide show is a reasonable shot of the guns about to get overrun by the 3rd KGL Hussars (who are converted 28mm Perry's Plastic French Hussars) - although you can't enlarge it I'm afraid.See also our previous game and the 9th image down the page (Austrian 1/72nd Plastic Artillery facing Cam's French 25mm Metal Minifigs), and image 14 in the Gallery at the bottom of the same scene:
http://wargaming.info/2011/a-little-1809-lasalle-affair/:-)
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Yes it was definitely an entertaining game with the highlight being mentioned by Cam where his superstar battalion twice fended off a simultaneous attack by infantry in front and cavalry in the flank, first in column then in square. The reason being that over the two rounds of combat Cam threw a total of 5 hits out of 6 and I think John threw about 30 dice without scoring above a 3 - which has to be some sort of record... :-)
Made me not too sad that my DBMM opponent for the day didn't show up (FYI John & Cam - he'd got the month wrong...)
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The reason being that over the two rounds of combat Cam threw a total of 5 hits out of 6 and I think John threw about 30 dice without scoring above a 3 - which has to be some sort of record... :-)
Sigh.... Indeed! Poor Brunswicker Hussars and Black Watch - the ignominy! And to add insult to injury of course having accrued 2 DSIR for those charges the Brunswickers were then promptly shot off the face of the earth next turn by a musketry fusillade of 3 French battalions who surrounded them in line!
Don't recall that manoeuvre (the Horseshoe of Lines surrounding cav) in Nosworthy's work or Imperial Bayonets or such texts...? ;-) Might be another for Cam's new book...? :-)
Made me not too sad that my DBMM opponent for the day didn't show up (FYI John & Cam - he'd got the month wrong...)
OMG! For real?! :-oPosted 1 year ago # -
Ok - I've got my Gallery script running right now - so if you didn't look at the larger images previously it's much easier and a much nicer experience as they now open correctly in a pop up java window and you just click on the right or left edge to scroll forwards & backwards through them... :-)
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P.S. I've now added captions to the large images as well... :-)
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I must admit I do like to read a good battle report with some nice pics:) I think it would be good to see more on the Lasalle forum....Cams statistical tactics are well worth a look as well:)
cheers Paul
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The pop up windows do make an enormous difference. I was curious, how thick are your bases and how did you engineer the printed description behind each unit. Can you change the labels out easily. They are very tidy.
Thanks for the great report.
John
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I must admit I do like to read a good battle report with some nice pics:) I think it would be good to see more on the Lasalle forum....Cams statistical tactics are well worth a look as well:)
Paul - Are you referring to the Cauldron of Death in our game (that destroyed the Brunswick Hussars and was going after the 3rd KGL Hussars at the end - see the photos) or to Cam's posts somewhere here? :-)Posted 1 year ago # -
Hi John ...I was refering to both:) ...its nice to meet you and I didn't realise you are the co author of Modern Spearhead:) ....just got the rules after we had been playing WW2 Spearhead. I've played many a game of FOW and then we thought lets have a different, dare I say it a more realistic game ...I've loads of 1/285th Modern armies and used to play WRG Modern.
Spearhead is a really good game and its a nice change of pace from 15mm FOW....now we've just got to find time inbetween every other project to try out a few Modern battles...
cheers Paul
very nice website:)
ps we've been playing quite a few games of Fire and Fury recently ....doing a campaign sort of thing and refighting all the ACW battles ...still got to try out Regimental Fire and fury:)
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The pop up windows do make an enormous difference. I was curious, how thick are your bases and how did you engineer the printed description behind each unit. Can you change the labels out easily. They are very tidy. Thanks for the great report.
Thanks for the kind word John - yes they do, I had them running previously under Joomla, but when I switched to WordPress to power my site I had to reinstall all new plugin apps to manage those functions, and had a devil of a time getting that particular one to work properly - there was seem sort of bug between it, the latest version of WP, and my Template. But all sorted now so next week or so I'll be going back through all my old posts with photo galleries to enable that and complete my migration.Bases: My bases are all 3mm thick - it's a standard thickness I use for everything, from 20mm WW2 to 28mm Ancients, Napoleonic, ACW, Colonial, WW1, and so on... I find 3mm is thick enough to easily pick up, and provides enough space as you see for the labels on rear surface, while still being thin enough not too look too clunky or thick. The bases are usually ply-wood (sourced from Litko) but in the case of the Napoleonic chaps I've sourced precision cut MDF ones from a chap here in New Zealand (as these are more cost effective). I normally base most of my terrain now on fairly similar 2mm-3mm thick bases (usually MDF or occasionally PlastiCard) to maintain consistency and keep the heights on a comparable level... I have some ultra-thin 0.8mm ply-wood ones from Litko too, specifically for special terrain projects (such as my Astro-Turf fields where 5cm 'squares' of astro-turf mounted onto the 0.8mm plywood will sit in a larger field 'base' on a standard 2mm-3mm thick base - and be individually removable to allow placement of troop stands).
Labels: The labels are just designed in MS Word 2007 and then printed at maximum quality on a good quality ink-jet printer. Once printed they are sprayed with artists fixer to protect the print, carefully glued to the back of the base (which has been painted and has had the larger grass and such affixed prior to painting), then the whole base gets it's final coat of matt varnish to finish it off (and help put a second layer over the label to protect it). I then finish off the base by detailing it with the small grass tufts, flowers, etc...
As you can tell from above the labels aren't changeable - but that's okay for me - I'm specifically modelling Quatre Bras and Waterloo - and with most nations Regiments they can't easily fill in for others due to their facing colours & standards - so I'm happy modelling specific regiments permanently... :-)
The labels are done by drawing up a table with 4.8cm wide main columns - representing the backs of the 4 bases of a typical unit - and then each of those columns are split into 2 small and 1 large column. The position of these 3 sub-columns varies from base to base depending on it's position when the unit is in line. Then the rows are set to a fixed height of 3mm and the padding & margins all reduced to 0mm. I use Arial Narrow as my font (as you pack the most text in with that) and start with a size around 6pts (although I think I fitted up to 8pts high in some places).
The large sub-column (about 2.5cm) has the unit's number (& name where appropriate), the 2 small sub-columns have the unit's parent organisation (e.g. "8 Br Bde" for Kempt's 8th British Infantry Brigade, "5 Br Cav" for the 5th British Cavalry Brigade) in a 1.3cm column; and the position of the stand in the unit in the remaining 1cm column: Flank companies are marked Left & Right (with the sub-column for that at the outer edge of the base); Centre Companies with the standards are marked with arrows --> <-- respectively - and these are on the inner edge and designed to face each other for intuitive positioning of the bases in play (I have based my standards over 2 bases to get them dead centre in the unit, so the latter is essential to for the unit to form up right on table). When in Attack Column the Left & Right flank company bases just get tucked behind the 2 centre comapny bases which form the front.
Artillery Batteries with only 3 bases instead have a round dot for the centre stand (where the arrows would be). When I come to do large units (like the Nassauers) the extra centre company stands will need an extra symbol or note - I plan to use "CenLeft" and CenRght" or possibly double arrows pointing inwards e.g. -> -> and <- <- (or something like that).
You can sort of see all the above for the 2/44th East Essex in the 4th Image of the 3rd Slide Show sown the page (The image titled "Turn 9") and the 42nd Highland unit in line in the 6th of the Large Images in the gallery, and you can see the flank company labels fairly clearly on the 1/28th North Gloucestershire's in the 8th Image (although the bases are back to front - in my haste I've put them 'arse about face' during the game! :-o
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Hi John ...I was refering to both:)
Ahh, right! :-)...its nice to meet you and I didn't realise you are the co author of Modern Spearhead:) ....just got the rules after we had been playing WW2 Spearhead. I've played many a game of FOW and then we thought lets have a different, dare I say it a more realistic game ...I've loads of 1/285th Modern armies and used to play WRG Modern. Spearhead is a really good game and its a nice change of pace from 15mm FOW....now we've just got to find time inbetween every other project to try out a few Modern battles...
Same here - and Indeed - I guess it all comes down to your expectations and what you want from a game - both SH and MSH are designed to provide a feel for high level command and not the specifics of what individual platoons (or even companies) are doing I guess along the lines of where Sam is endeavouring to take Blucher in some ways... I must confess I don't play either now - I've decided not to game in anything below 20mm scale (unless it's Naval or Air stuff), so micro-armour is out, and my focus is shifted back to lower levels of representation that have a fairly high simulation quality (i.e. produce real-life like challenges and dilemmas) while still being highly playable, hence for WW2 and Moderns I now play Crossfire exclusively, and why I think I have connected with Lasalle for Napoleonics (the only other ruleset that's had a near similar effect on me is Arty's SHAKO & SHAKO II - other rulesets just don't capture the right interaction and feel as I understand Napoleonic Battles or result in the 'play the rules' instead of 'play real life tactics' problem)... :-)very nice website:)
Thank you. It is missing half it's image galleries in the posts at present as I haven't finished the migration I started about 10 days ago or so due to having the issues with the Javascript pop-up viewers ans mentioned above..... (it will probably be end of the month before I have all the image galleries back in place in the older posts).ps we've been playing quite a few games of Fire and Fury recently ....doing a campaign sort of thing and refighting all the ACW battles ...still got to try out Regimental Fire and fury:)
Yes - that sounds great - I've got a 28mm Union Army about a third done (about 90 odd Infantry painted to date - 30+ bases) and a small 28mm Reb force (about 40 figs - a dozen bases) - and one of the other guys at the club has a large 28mm Reb force as well of about 70 bases or so - but I can't seem to get back to them... I'm keen to get back to F&F (haven't played it at all for about 14 years since I sold both my 15mm armies), and am very keen to try Regimental F&F.
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However Sam's Stonewall interests me - but I was hoping it'd be a Regimental Level set, comparable with Regimental F&F and Johnny Reb (and Lasalle), rather than a higher level "Brigade" set or such, like Blucher, which doesn't 'excite' me as much these days... :-)Posted 1 year ago # -
Lol, small world .. John, your 15mm ACW are alive and well and get a dust off occasionally for some FnF :)
I was on the FnF website just yesterday looking at the regimental and also their WW2 rules (Battlefront) for a change of pace from FoW.Anyways, back on topic. Nice website and cool pics of the game.
cheers
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Lol, small world .. John, your 15mm ACW are alive and well and get a dust off occasionally for some FnF :)
Great to hear - they were my favourite army when I was in Christchurch! But moving to Auckland they didn't get much use hence they moved on (and hten I dropped 15mm altogether)... Are you (& they) still down in Invercargill (or Dunedin or wherever it was) braving the cold?Posted 1 year ago # -
Anyways, back on topic. Nice website and cool pics of the game.
Cheers! Appreciate the feedback! :-)Posted 1 year ago # -
Still in Invercargill, enjoying the nice sunny weather lol
cheers
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Thanks for all that great info, I might give those labels a try they look great.
John
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