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Started 2 years ago by drums and shakos
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drums and shakos
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Irregulars have several peculiarities and they are quite spread in the rulebook.
Trying to summarize, they:
- ignore difficult terrain penalty(excluding linear obstacles)
- shoot/fight normally in rough ground
- shoot/fight with a penalty in open
- cannot charge regular units (so Cossacks cannot charge a regular unit correct?)unless they or the target are in difficult ground
- have a specific line in the Change formation table
- if inherently SK2 or SK3 a unit may split into SK bases or changed for an Irregular one

...did I forget something?
Thanks
Sergio

Posted 2 years ago #
bsantucci
Member

Looks good to me ! You are on top of it !!

Posted 2 years ago #
marke
Member

May shoot at, from or through woods as if they did not exist. For irregular foot this can be important if the battlefield has woods.

If using the optional rule then they ignore all recovery limits for maneuvers but can't recover if close to the enemy.

Posted 2 years ago #
drums and shakos
Member

Thank you guys.
It's still irregular cavalry that puts me in doubt... so they can't charge regulars, but they can freely pass through woods (and even charge a regular unit)?

Posted 2 years ago #
bsantucci
Member

They can freely pass thru woods and can charge regular units that are in the woods only, not in the open.

Posted 2 years ago #
marke
Member

I would say irrg cav would be good at clearing rough ground, where they can charge all opponents. They can't charge any in the open.

As foot can't form square the foot will halve their dice. The cav does not have a terrain disadvantage. The foot are in trouble and other cav at least have the terrain disadvantage issues.

Otherwise they are speedbumps/blockers in the open.

Posted 2 years ago #
drums and shakos
Member

I see the point... did not get the "combo" against infantry (which cannot form square in rough) thanks for the hint :)
I just have to get used to cavalry in woods but that's just a mental heritage...

OK this evening 2 tables in different rooms (2 french against 1 austrian and 1 russian) with secret "hourly" messaging (written, of course!) and possibility to move troops to the other table. Let's see what happens!
cheers
Sergio

Posted 2 years ago #
Nick the Lemming
Member

Marke remembers that infantry can't form square in rough because his poor infantry were caught napping in woods by my cavalry. :D

Sorry Mark, had to rub it in again. ;)

Posted 2 years ago #
marke
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Ha Nick, you live and learn... All part of the fun :)

As for cav in woods, yes coming from an ancient rules set background I have the same issue. But, it does make sense that rough ground affects formed infantry more than cav who use their swords and pistols.

Hey, this last week the Balkan irregular militia troops took command of a flank of woods and then used that to cause plenty of issues for some early Prussians. The Prussian Cuirassier's were all on the other side of the field - causing me heartache there! The regulars had problems dealing with a mob of irregs on the flank alone.

If I get chance this weekend I'll write a dispatch for the Sultan and post it - although dusk fell (i.e. real time ran out on the game - not game tuns) before a decision could be made and the game was still in the balance.

The Ottoman's being all amateurs require thinking/planning for 2 to 3 turns ahead which is something that I'm still getting used to. They react slowly (and randomly) especially with poor vigor commanders!

Posted 2 years ago #
ajbartman
Member

marke - what figures are you using for you Ottoman's ?

Posted 2 years ago #
marke
Member

Old Glory 15mm's. To be honest the army is a mid Renaissance (16-17cent) army based for DBR/FoG-R with 20mm not 30mm deep regular infantry bases. It has been drafted into Lasalle due to it being painted and not too far from the real thing. There are too many bows and even some musket rests included if someone looks closely at the army, but it's not that bad. My 'stand in' limbers are the worse bit - which are early 16th cent Ottoman warwagons. Although after 2 games I have not put those on the table yet.

I likely will purchase some of the OG 15mm seven years war range Ottomans to add more colour and expand the possible brigade selection I can take, as well as bring it closer to the true period. Note, there are a lot of figs needed for an Ottoman army!

I've started some Prussians but they will take a while to complete and so I thought I might was well use these and have some fun playing.

Posted 2 years ago #
Howie
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So I can't see many people taking a full Cossack Brigade, and being stuck with 6 units that are only usefull in rough ground.....

One unit with the light Brigade looks looks useful.

Steve H

Posted 2 years ago #

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