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1. Kraussian
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   I've become a huge fan of Sam Mustafa after purchasing LaSalle and Grande Armee, and so I've purchased Might & Reason too in impulse.

   I recently became interested in the American Civil War, and started reading Might & Reason with the intention of using it to refight ACW. This was when I realized a mistake on my part: I had always assumed that Might & Reason were "grand-tactical rules for 19th century warfare", intended to be used for conflicts like the ACW or Crimean War.

   Now I realized that M&R is actually for written for 18th (not 19th) century warfare, and more intended to be used for the FPW and such.

   But then I was thinking... is 18C warfare all that different from 19C? If not, then couldn't I use Might & Reason to wargame the ACW?

   Now I do know that this may be a hopelessly naive question, but I'm asking because I don't have the faintest clue about conflicts in the 18th century.

   Posted 11 months ago #

2. Mycenius
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   ...and more intended to be used for the FPW and such.

   Franco-Prussian War is 19th Century too! ;-)

   You mean the WAS (War of the Austrian Succession) and the SYW (Seven Years War incorporating the F&IW); and the later American Revolution. And I guess potentially at the start of the 18th Century the WSS (War of the Spanish Succession - i.e. Marlburian era) would be the major conflicts. And yes these are significantly different from the later 19th Century conflicts of the ACW, FPW, FAW, 7WW (APW), etc...

   I have not played M&R (only familiar with the general concepts and seen the odd game at our club) but would suspect you'd need a lot of tweaking depending on the specific mechanics in the game. The 18th Century is the era of highly disciplined professional armies, Infantry was near-impervious to Cavalry due to that discipline, combat was very regimented with all armies using similar drill and everything very linear, etc... Artillery was still cumbersome and not overly mobile, etc...

   Even Frederick the Great during the WAS was not that truly innovative - his vaunted Prussians not being so different from the Austrians, French, British, etc...

   Posted 11 months ago #

3. Kraussian
   Member

   Franco-Prussian War is 19th Century too! ;-)

   Oops! Shows how much I know (or don't)! :P

   Thanks for the reply, and sounds like I'll need to put M&R on the back burner for now, until my interest brings me to 18th Century warfare... which I don't doubt will happen sooner or later.

   Posted 11 months ago #

4. vilcum
   Member

   Our group came interested on ACW recently too, we are trying "Jhonny Rebel III" ruleset while Sam develops its ACW honour ruleset (we even choose JRIII over regimental F&F because it units are four bases each as Lasalle) and we are quite happy with it, our only complain being the need for different number of figures for each base.

   Posted 11 months ago #

5. paulus
   Member

   Hi Kraussian...for ACW battles I think its hard to beat the Original Fire and Fury brigade system:)...we've tried Regimental Fire and Fury and it did not feel as elegant and at time a bit clunky....strange really as when you read the rules they feel similar.
   Hopefully when Sam gets time:)who knows an ACW rulest /variant could appear:)

   cheers Paul

   Posted 11 months ago #

6. Valmy92
   Member

   There is actually a civil war variant floating around called rights and treason (or some such) I haven't played it, but it looks intriguing. Some of the things in the variant could come back into the 18C piece too (large units for example)
   Phil

   Posted 11 months ago #

7. Sgt Steiner
   Member

   Hi

   There is a version/module for M&R for ACW called 'Rights & Treason' posted by Sam a good while back

   I think I have a copy saved along with a QRS drop me a line if you want

   sgt.steiner@virgin.net

   Cheers

   Posted 11 months ago #

8. Marechal La Haie
   Member

   Isn't Rights & Treason in the M&R yahoo group files?

   ... Yep. It's in there. Also available in French.

   Posted 11 months ago #

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