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1. John de Terre Neuve
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   I am finding the Hougomont scenario quite a compelling scenario to work on. Lot on the web and have even bought a couple of books Paget & Saunders small treatise on Hougomont, as well as "The Waterloo Companion".

   The critical parts of the battle appear to be from about 11am to 3pm and after some thought, I have come up with this preliminary OB. It of course does not have the units involved, but I am hoping it will give a fairly balanced scenario based on history.

   

   There are probably too many irregular units in the OB, but most of the terrain is quite irregular especially for the defenders, so maybe it will be ok. Still trying to decide whether to use 2 battalion equivalent units of light british guard companies or 1 (1 is much more accurate to the Historical OB), and maybe some or all of the 1e legere regiment should be irregular as well.

   The recent posts on irregular units and obstacles have given me some ideas, especially in respect to the terrain rules. I am still having real difficulty envisioning the Hougomont complex and orchard as a series of BUA's , and really feel more comfortable with it being a series of terrain features. It is just that the Hougomont complex (from Hovels that is) is really too large, being 18 BW's in it's longest dimension (6 BUA's)

   Maybe the scenario would work if all, the wood south of the complex and the orchard and complex itself are graded as rough terrain. But this makes it very difficult for formed units to fire, have to think about this a bit more. i also think the walls should be classed as obstacles. Maybe the walls of the chateau itself should be impregnable aside from the gates. The walls of the garden and the south wall of the orchard could be crossed but are hard cover. Still think about the terrain, sure would like an extra foot of depth.

   

   I must say that this exercise has made me read the rulebook repeatedly and the posts of the members of the group have really been quite useful. Great members and forum.

   Of course still have not got artillery sorted, but I will leave that to last. It did appear to play quite an important part in the battle and I would like to have it as an element of the scenario.

   Thanks,

   John

   Posted 1 year ago #

2. paulus
   Member

   Hi John ....many thanks for the input, when we tried the game on the first outing everything went fine....I am now painting up some Irregular battalions ..cheers Paul

   Posted 1 year ago #

3. Peoples_Republic
   Member

   Hi John great stuff. Well done. Im going to steal it if thats all right?

   You can just go down the list order adding french brigades and british battalions as you have them and how bigger battle you want.

   John said,
   """Still trying to decide whether to use 2 battalion equivalent units of light british guard companies or 1 (1 is much more accurate to the Historical OB"""

   The Historical ob doesnt go in to that detail. but what actaully happened and Historical Obs can be quite misleading. A problem in wargamming. lol. But there was the guard line in reserve at the start of the battle away from the lights. I can get u quotes and maps already have actaully but i can get you more.

   If you are just doing the guards and the nassau and the a french brigade. "A Smaller game" I think its quite important to split the guards line and the light companies up into 2 units because you need more british units to cover areas and let the lights retreat to recover. Thats the way they were at the start of the first attack anyway.

   The guards had around 900 to 1000 men in there battalion(sources vary) so there real strength will be 450-500 men not 600 just in case u get any experts.

   Also I would consider not giving line guards, skirmishers because they would be all with the light irregulars. but meh very good either way.

   I think gerome had a battery origionally after the first attack 1 gun was brought up and latter the whole battery.

   But on the sides you have the problem of massed artillery on the french and british sides.

   the only time the french got in and only with thirty men was near the start when the gates were left open so I would say its impregnable myself.

   anyway just some obs
   cheers

   Posted 1 year ago #

4. Peoples_Republic
   Member

   Hi heres your layout with a bit more detail.

   

   I decided quite early on not to treat the gardens and orchard as bus. Just the chataeu complex.But the garden wall is over six feet wide so alot of the men could be out of line of site so don't know how to treat that.

   cheers

   Posted 1 year ago #

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