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1. Borodino
   Member

   Hi. I've played about 20 games now of LaSalle. I certainly have a better handle on the nuances of the game than when i asked "what's the point of Cossacks?".

   It inspired me to finish off my 15mm Russian army.

   However, the more i play, the more i find each game very samey, even when you randomise terrain etc. I think the rules are very good; simple, fun and i really like the army lists but i just can't help feeling that there's something missing. Whether its scenarios or a proper points system for competitive gamers/tournaments.

   Whether or not i win or lose seems to depend entirely on how quickly the reserves come on.

   I've been using the 1812 Russian Grenadier Division (sometimes Infantry) with either a Dragoon support option or occasionaly Light Cavalry support. More often or not i defend as its almost impossible to attack with 6 infantry Battalions and no support in sight. I usually face Prussians (100 days) or French.

   My opponents loathe all the guns i have but have gradually realised that they're easy enough to deal with.

   I started Russians for another ruleset and it was at my regular opponents suggestion as they preferred the European theatre and were short of the boys in green. It wasn't the lure of the massed batteries as some gaming mates have suggested.

   Thoughts/Suggestions?

   Posted 2 years ago #

2. Sam Mustafa
   Le Grand Fromage

   Since you seem to have a good-sized collection, then I'd recommend you play with two Support Brigades. The larger the games, the more variations there are, and the less that fate hangs upon the arrival of any one game.

   Posted 2 years ago #

3. Borodino
   Member

   Hi Sam - thanks for replying. Have i understood you correctly; each start with both Reserve choices on the table? If so, more of a Pitched Battle rather than Attack/Defend.

   That could be interesting and, for me, much more tactical rather then just hope you haven't lost before the Reserves come on.

   Mind you, i'd have to paint a 4th (horse) artillery battery. I can hear the howls already! [grin]

   Cheers, d

   Posted 2 years ago #

4. Sam Mustafa
   Le Grand Fromage

   No, I mean just play with two Support brigades instead of one. They can be both Reserve, or both Organic or Allied, or some combination, as you prefer.

   Most of our games in recent months have been 2 players vs. 2 players, with 2 Support choices on each side. It creates a longer game, but also makes for a more interesting rise and fall of fortunes and tension.

   Posted 2 years ago #

5. Borodino
   Member

   mmm ok, i'll give it a go but don't see any real difference; its still in the lap of the gods when you get reserves unless you have access to organic cavalry/allies. Would Reserves come on with one successful roll or do you roll for them individually?

   Russian Grenadiers/Infantry don't have Organic Cavalry of course (except in Conquest). I could try using my infantry as Guards with Organic Guard Cavalry but the Send in Guard Rule hamstrings you (not that i'm against the rule; Guards are very very good).

   No Allies either or at least they're built into the Russian Army list already, Poles, Lithuanians etc.

   Russian Guard Cavalry isn't defined in the book; i'm assuming i could use a combination of Dragoons, Uhlans or Hussars (i don't have any Cuirass)

   Thanks, d

   Posted 2 years ago #

6. Watts
   Member

   I am using the same list as you. I usually take Light Cavalry in support but sometime dabble with Curassiers.

   I have been giving some though to the same concerns lately. I think that the scenario rules in the book are great but I am sure if there were some alternate setups that things would have bit more variety as far as pick-up games are concerned. Some things that could be changed are objective placement, number of objectives on the board, different deployment zones, etc. Even victory conditions could be different considering the scenario.

   Posted 2 years ago #

7. Ashur_dan
   Member

   Hi All

   I intend to use Lasalle and Lasalle based figures to play through a number of the 'table-top teasers' found in the Battlegames magazine and special supplement. They are generally small scale actions and I'm hoping that I won't need to tweak the rules at all, just use the victory conditions in the teaser.

   regards

   Stephen

   Posted 2 years ago #

8. Pickton
   Member

   An attacker usually gets more troops and more commanders. I am beginning to feel that have the defenders reserve come on at some later time and often just to late to effect the issue might be a step too far with regard to some match-ups.

   Posted 2 years ago #

9. Nick the Lemming
   Member

   If you want quicker reserves, how about rolling three dice at the end of each turn, and totalling the two lowest?

   Posted 2 years ago #

10. Another_Grognard
    Member

    > However, the more i play, the more i find each game very samey, even when you
    > randomise terrain etc. I think the rules are very good; simple, fun and i really
    > like the army lists but i just can't help feeling that there's something missing.
    > Whether its scenarios or a proper points system for competitive gamers/tournaments.

    When you just play "Army Builder" battles, yes, it can get stale fast, but that's where scenarios come in. Sadly, the book only comes with a couple, but players are encouraged to create their own.

    There are a lot of historical actions where things can get pretty interesting, or if one desires, create a hypothetical scenario.

    Posted 2 years ago #

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