Greetings. On page 32 (dealing with charging units) it says "A unit may only attack an enemy unit that is visible to it at the beginning of it's Activity Phase... Obviously, I can't charge a unit on the other side of a hill that I can not see, even if I can reach them. But, how about charging a unit in woods? Can I "see" into woods; if so, how far? Any other situations that might fall under not being "visible".
Thanks! BW.
The only time Line of Sight is mentioned I can see is on p21 specifically about hills.
p49 says certain types of terrain obstruct fire, but does not say anything about visibility.
So I interpret the rules as saying (special scenario rules aside) that only hills block visibility for charging. Other terrain does not block visibility, so you can charge enemy in or behind other types of terrain (normal move rules permitting) - but the terrain may block or prevent firing.
Cam
Greetings. Thanks, that's what I felt, also. However, not being able to "see" into woods would surely stop those guys who want to charge their cavalry in to a wooded area - since they would have to scout it out by moving into the woods first (which would take them out of the main action for at least one more turn).
Cheers. BW.
Off the cuff comment time: For woods, I'd be tempted to play it that you can only see what's in the woods if you or your opponent's unit is within one BW of the edge of the terrain feature.
I would have to go with Sentient Bean on this one. That is, I too would be tempted to play Lasalle so that you can only see what is in the woods if you or your opponent's unit is within one-BW of the edge of the terrain feature (woods in this case). Trees tend to block line of sight. In fact, I would even go so far as to say that only units at the edge of woods can be seen.
I like the 1BW rule idea as well.
-Scott
I have a similar question about pretty much the same thing but have noticed that this thread ended a couple of months ago. So, here goes my attempt to revive it! Can a unit, completely in the woods, charge another unit, completely out of the woods, provided they have enough movement (with the rough terrain penalty) to reach it? In this particular case, a very clever commander sent the lone French dragoon battalion (with a sub commander) around the rear of his opponent's force and used the cover of the woods to approach and charge the opposing artillery, which was using the very woods to 'protect' it from just such an action. After a quick look in the book, we determined that the rules did not seem to forbid such an action and moved on. A little more clarification from Mr. Mustafa, or anyone else who has received such clarification before, would be greatly appreciated. By the way, I too like the 1BW idea!
Edgar
I see no problem with that as long as you have enough room between the artillery and edge of the wood
cheers
"Can a unit, completely in the woods, charge another unit, completely out of the woods, provided they have enough movement (with the rough terrain penalty) to reach it?"
Certainly.
Thank you kindly for your response Scruff and Sam!
So, as I now understand it, woods do not block a unit's visibility but they do block line of fire, provide cover, act as bad terrain for combat, and act as rough terrain for movement. Did I get it all right?
You got it Ed, provided the unit is Regular. An Irregular unit can move, shoot, and fight through woods (or other rough ground) without penalty, and in fact take penalties for when they fight in open ground.
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